By Kristen Baldwin
April 22, 2019 at 11:23 AM EDT
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Here’s a fun fact for the day: Peer pressure works. After spending a year banging the drum for YouTube Premium’s Karate Kid sequel series — through glowing reviews and a spot on my 10 best shows of the year list — I finally got Darren Franich to watch Cobra Kai. And good news: He loved it! This week on EW’s Best of Shows podcast, Darren and I geek out on the new season of Cobra Kai, which premieres Wednesday, and features the return of franchise bad guy John Kreese. And when I say “geek out,” I mean it: Phrases like “the duality of man” and “metaphor for our divided nation” are uttered, belly laughs about William Zabka’s transcendent performance as villain-turned-underdog Johnny Lawrence are had.

Also on the podcast this week: She-Ra and the Princesses of Power showrunner Noelle Stevenson on the challenges of making animation that appeals to adults and children — “I think that children are capable of handling weighty themes,” she says — and her first TV love (which involves the Bible, anime, and a robot).

Listen to the full episode below, or you can listen and subscribe to EW’s Best of Shows podcast via Apple PodcastsGoogle PlayStitcherRadio.com, or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes are available every Monday morning. Tweet counterarguments to @KristenGBaldwin or @DarrenFranich.

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