By Dalton Ross
October 05, 2017 at 11:06 AM EDT
Fall TV

Simone Nguyen stepped outside her comfort zone to appear on Survivor: Heroes v. Healers v. Hustlers, but she never got comfortable with her tribe, which resulted in her being the first Hustler voted out of the game.

What went wrong? Did she think she had a chance of turning the tribe against Patrick? And just how proud is she of her aqua dump? Simone shared all — including the advice she got from Andrea Boehlke before she went out to play — when she called into EW Morning Live (Entertainment Weekly Radio, SiriusXM, channel 105), and you can now hear the entire interview on the EW Morning Live podcast. Here are a few highlights, including the bombshell that Ali and Patrick knew each other “for years” and lived across the street from each other before heading out to play.

On her reluctance to go to the bathroom in the water:
“I didn’t go until day 4. I was that scared. The producer Woody was yelling at me from the pier, ‘Simone! Come back!’ My God, it was so terrifying. I was telling him, ‘Look away! Look away!’ I guess I was like too close to the pier and he was like, ‘What if a boat comes?’”

On her biggest concern about being filmed naked:
“You have to bathe in the ocean, obviously. I was really afraid of being naked on camera basically ever, because I was like, okay, what if I want to run for Senate one day? What if I want to be a judge? I don’t want this footage of me to exist, so for six days, I was basically never naked, and I was like, oh my God, this is the first time I’m experiencing this in my life.”

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On what camp life was like with Patrick:
“I love Patrick, but he would get up in the middle of the night and he would be like, ‘EVERYBODY, WAKE UP! IT’S THE MORNING!’ And then we would all wake up and it would be the middle of the night, and I would get so angry. He really enjoyed the camera time, and I couldn’t hold it against him. He’s on TV. We’re on TV. He’s dancing with a crab. This is what he’s living for.”

On Ali and her secret connection to Patrick:
“Ali is terrifying. She’s terrifying for a lot of reasons, but one of the reasons she’s terrifying is she’s so beautiful. So, in the beginning, I met her and I think it’s just my way of expressing myself, I was like, ‘Oh my God. It’s so good to meet you. I hate you. You’re so beautiful!’ And immediately she was like, ‘You hate me?!?’ And I was like, ‘NOOOOOOOOOO! Friendship with this goddess over!’

She’s a player. She’s smart. And that’s something that was obvious to everybody. She wasn’t a goofball. She was the opposite of Patrick, which was so weird because they went to college together. They lived across the street from each other. These two people who look like they’re so different, they have this secret backstory. Of course you’re going to choose the person who you’ve known for years over the person you met six days ago. They both went to University of Auburn. Patrick lived across the street from her. He helped her move her mattress upstairs.”

On if she finally got air conditioning at Ponderosa after being voted off:
“Oh my God, yes! Finally! Finally! Not only do you get air conditioning, you get your own bungalow — your own air-conditioned bungalow, your own shower, your own bathroom, and three beds! You have three beds when you’re voted off in Ponderosa! It’s amazing.”

To hear the entire interview check out the EW Morning Live podcast by subscribing on iTunes right here. And for more EW Morning Live podcast news, follow us on Twitter @EWMLPodcast.

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