The two '80s pop stars disagree about the usefulness of political invective

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January 26, 2017 at 08:48 AM EST

The Women’s March on Washington last weekend had some memorable big-name celebrity speeches. Madonna’s, for one, was filled with swears and invective, which her fellow ’80s pop star Cyndi Lauper criticized during a Wednesday night appearance onĀ Watch What Happens Live.

“I don’t think that it served our purpose,” Lauper said. “Anger is not better than clarity and humanity. That is what opens people’s minds.”

As a counter-example, Lauper pointed to Scarlett Johansson’s speech at the Women’s March, in which she invoked her personal experiences with Planned Parenthood.

“It was clear, it was eloquent,” Lauper said. “Yelling just jacks people up. It doesn’t communicate any kind of humanity or story that would open another person’s mind.”

Watch the clip above.

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