By EW Staff
December 02, 2019 at 05:30 PM EST

In this week’s episode of EW’s Star Wars Untold Stories podcast, Darren Franich and James Hibberd dive into The Mandalorian episode 4 and The Empire Strikes Back.

For The Mandalorian, the hosts dig into the question of whether Mando’s helmet-fixated The Way is more like a Samurai code of honor or a restrictive cult that our hero is destined to break free from.

And looking back on The Empire Strikes Back, the hosts discuss the 1980 film and drill down into the climactic “I am your father” scene.

So sip some bone broth and listen to the latest episode embedded below or, better yet, subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, Radio.com, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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