In Christian Bale’s newest movie Ford v Ferrari, the actor stars as ’60s race car driver Ken Miles. But in some ways, he’ll always be Batman. So when Bale sat down with Variety to discuss Ford v Ferrari alongside costar Matt Damon (who plays car designer Carroll Shelby) and director James Mangold at the Toronto International Film Festival this weekend, the interviewer naturally asked if he had any advice for the newest Dark Knight, Robert Pattinson.

“Oh, same as for Ben [Affleck]: Be able to pee by yourself,” Bale said with a smile. “You don’t feel much like a superhero when you can’t take a piss by yourself.”

He wasn’t lying about that. While promoting Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice in 2016, Affleck told Conan O’Brien that he had randomly run into Bale in a Halloween costume shop, and that Bale’s only advice had been “look mate, just make sure there’s a zipper in that suit.”

While talking to EW and PEOPLE about Ford v Ferrari at TIFF, Bale and Damon compared the film’s true-life story of building a new kind of race car to the experience of filmmaking itself.

“Shelby, remember, has achieved already the dream of winning Le Mans, is an incredible racer, and in that respect that Shelby is able to understand the bigger picture and multitask a hell of a lot better than Ken Miles,” Bale said. “I think Matt is equally able to multitask and see the big picture, and I think he’s gonna make a bloody good director one day.”

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