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October 04, 2016 at 12:00 PM EDT

Bingeworthy hosts Jessica Shaw and Touré cannot say enough good things about HBO’s new comedy Insecure. Touré hails the show as “one of the best TV shows on nowadays.” He praises Insecure creator and star Issa Rae as well, saying, “Issa Rae is giving Issa [her character] humanity and life.” Jessica Shaw shares similar sentiments calling Rae “a breath of fresh air.”

Touré thinks shows like Queen Sugar, Black-ish, and Atlanta are a part of “Black television renaissance,” but places Insecure at the top. He describes the show as “deeply and interestingly black,” but thinks, “this opens up enough that white people can be like, ‘I can ride with this group.'”

Meanwhile, Shaw bemoans the comparisons that are sure to arise between Insecure and Lena Dunham’s Girls. “There can be two shows with female leads that don’t have to be in the same conversation.” Touré sees massive amounts of differences between the two writers and their characters. “[Issa] gives herself much more credit as the creator to the character than Lena Dunham does to Hannah.” Issa’s character is “not a loser, she’s cool.”

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