By Natalie Abrams
Updated February 26, 2016 at 03:05 AM EST
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Each week, executive producer Betsy Beers goes behind the scenes of Grey’s Anatomy, Scandal, and How to Get Away with Murder in her podcast, Shondaland Revealed — and each week, EW will have an exclusive first listen of the latest episode.

This week, Beers catches up with Scandal‘s Darby Stanchfield, who discusses Abby turning into Fitz’s (Tony Goldwyn) “work wife” while he’s off wildcarding with Lillian Forrester (Annabeth Gish), shares her thoughts on David Rosen’s (Josh Malina) new love triangle, and teases Abby’s upcoming grab for power. Plus: Who would be Abby’s BFF from Grey’s Anatomy if she crossed over to the ABC medical drama?

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