Ellen DeGeneres was surprised to hear Caitlyn Jenner’s thoughts about gay marriage during the former Olympian’s interview on the season premiere of The Ellen DeGeneres Show. “She still has a judgement about gay marriage,” DeGeneres told Howard Stern on the Tuesday edition of his SiriusXM show.
Jenner, whose segment with DeGeneres aired on Tuesday, told the host in a pre-taped interview that she did not initially support gay marriage. “I’m a traditionalist,” Jenner said. “I’m older than most people in the audience. I kind of like tradition, and it’s always been a man and a woman. I’m thinking, ‘I don’t quite get it.'”
The 65-year-old, who came out as transgender in April of this year, went on to say that her views on the subject had evolved over time. “I think, like a lot of people on this issue, I have really changed my thinking here to, ‘I don’t ever want to stand in front of anybody’s happiness.’ That’s not my job, okay? If that word — ‘marriage’ — is really, really that important to you, I can go with it,” Jenner said.
Speaking to Stern on Tuesday, DeGeneres, who is married to actress Portia De Rossi, said Jenner’s stance was confusing. “I said, ‘You’re wanting people to understand and accept you — this is like, really confusing to people. And you still have a judgement about gay people and marriage,'” DeGeneres said. “She goes, ‘Well if the word marriage is that important.’ It is. That’s the word. We want the same thing.”
DeGeneres said Jenner was “a great interview,” but that the I Am Cait star didn’t dance with the host like so many previous guests. “I don’t think she’s a dancer,” she said. “Maybe she didn’t want to dance with me because I’m a lesbian.”
Jokes aside, DeGeneres told Stern that she wanted Jenner to be happy, “which is what I want for her for me.”
Watch the full segment on Jenner via Stern’s SiriusXM channel.
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