What was a more uncomfortable scene for you, that lollipop scene or the one where he later forces himself on you?
I feel like the lollipop one was more uncomfortable. The one where I smash him in the head with the jar and all of that where he forces himself on me — that time was more fun to play because I remember reading the script and that scene I was like, “Oh, this is going to be a fun scene.” Because even though he’s kind of forcing himself on me, there’s so much action to play, like noticing that Joan is down on the floor and deciding, “Oh, maybe I can get him,” and then smashing him on the head with the jar and him falling down — there was a lot to play with. And rather than just being scared, it was more of: How am I going to get out of this situation? So that scene was really fun.
And it was payback too.
Yeah, total payback.
I’m going to assume that was not an actual guinea pig you ate in that scene with the doctor. What was it you were chowing down on?
You know what? We actually did have real guinea pig. But we didn’t do guinea pig for every take because the pieces were so thin and not very able to cut off very easily off the bone, so we did have chicken for some takes. So I don’t know what was in that take, but we did have guinea pig. And I don’t eat meat, but I do for The Walking Dead, I guess. But what was interesting for that scene is they day that we shot that scene is the same day that we shot the scene where Noah and I are talking in the room with all the guinea pigs in the cages. So in the morning of that day we were shooting scenes with live guinea pigs running around and making noises, and then that evening we’re eating dead guinea pig. It was so gross.
What’s up with Noah at the end of that escape scene? He kind of took off and left you back there. What’s that all about?
I know! Why’d he leave me? But I feel like Beth is really happy for him when he gets out. And I hope that the audience knows that in that moment, even though she’s caught, that she is not caught. Yeah, they got her and they’re going to take her back into the hospital and all of that, but she is in a new place. I get the feeling that she’s just going to keep trying to run out of there. They don’t have power over her, in a certain way. She’s gained a fearlessness. And I think she’s really proud of herself, even though she didn’t get out — that she knows Noah got out.
At the very end we see Beth walking down the hallway with that stabbing instrument in her hand. She stops when she sees Carol being wheeled in, but what is she planning to do there? Take out the cop? Take out the doctor? Take everyone out?
I don’t think she knows exactly what her plan is. Those last two scenes with Dawn and Edward are moments where you see Beth at a different level, where it’s almost like, I know I don’t like these people. There’s almost a numbness and a fearlessness and there’s no filter anymore. She’s not trying to make friends with anyone here. She’s just going by gut instinct, like if she wants to grab a knife and stab someone, she’s gonna do it. If she wants to run down this hallway, she’s gonna do it. She’s just gonna do whatever she wants. She doesn’t care what these people think and they can beat her up as much as they want. But then I do think that moment where she sees Carol does snap her out of it, and she starts to remember her family and she thinks, oh, maybe we can do something here. It’s not just me on my own in this place now.
Watch Kinney playing a game of ‘Walking Dead: GOTCHA!” in the video player below. Also make sure to check out our interviews with Tyler James Williams (who plays Noah) and Christine Woods (Dawn Lerner), as well as Kyle Ryan’s episode recap. And for more ‘Walking Dead’ intel, follow Dalton on Twitter @DaltonRoss.