By Esther Zuckerman
Updated October 23, 2014 at 09:05 PM EDT

Taylor Swift may seem invincible in these days leading up to the release of 1989, but she has fears like the rest of us. Well, not exactly like the rest of us.

In a clip from her upcoming appearance on Ellen, set for her release date Oct. 27, Swift reveals her ridiculous fears. The first? Sea urchins. “They are like a grenade. They’re sitting there waiting to completely injure you,” she says. The second fear? She’s scared of being framed for a crime. “So many people would frame me,” she says. “They could frame you for any crime that you could go to jail for, and look at me, I wouldn’t survive in jail.”

Why? Well, that relates to being very very famous. Swift explains she’s used to reading untrue headlines about herself. “I think the dream and the nightmare of being framed comes from I could do nothing wrong, I could sit in my house with the cats all day, and somehow there could be an article about me buying a house in a place I’ve never been or dating a guy I’ve never met.” Then she makes the leap to being framed for murder. When you put it that way, it seems almost reasonable.