Lawrence Gilliard Jr. was not supposed to be cast on The Walking Dead. And the reason was simple: another former The Wire alum — Chad Coleman, who played Cutty — was already on the show as Tyreese. And for new showrunner Scott M. Gimple, one Wire alum was enough. But thanks to two pesky casting directors and two killer auditions by the actor himself (who played doomed drug dealer D’Angelo Barksdale on The Wire), Gilliard indeed landed the part of new character Bob Stookey, a former army medic who in the original Walking Dead comic book happens to be an older, white guy. While waiting out a rain delay on set during filming of season 4, Gilliard told the story of his audition process and how he was able to change Gimple’s mind.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How did you end up in this role? I know Walking Dead creator Robert Kirkman is a big fan of The Wire, and he told me, “I just want to get as many Wire actors as possible…

LAWRENCE GILLIARD JR.: I’ve got to tell you the story. Scott [Gimple] told me. He’s like, “You know, we’ve got Chad on the show, so I said, ‘No more Wire people. We’ve got enough of The Wire, because you see too many Wire people on the show and you start thinking of The Wire.’” So he’s like, “No more Wire people, and then I saw your tape, and I said, ‘Oh, okay.’” [Casting directors] Sharon Bialy and Sherry Thomas, I have to thank them because he says, “No Wire people,” and they brought me in. I remember the audition. I showed up, and apparently I was the first one to read, and it was three pages of a character they made up because they didn’t want anyone to know it was going to be Bob Stookey. Very hush-hush. It was like three pages of just this guy talking. And I went in and I did it, and they were kind of just quiet when I was done. They were like, “You know, that was really good.” I walked out, and I saw another guy sitting there, a white guy, older guy.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: That’s what Bob Stookey is like in the comics, a white, older guy.

LAWRENCE GILLIARD JR.: Right, right. And I didn’t know that about the comics, either. I knew I did a good job, but I didn’t hear anything for two weeks. Then, my manager called and said, “You have a callback for The Walking Dead,” so I’m like, “Alright, a callback, they’ll probably have the producer in there, the director or somebody, you know.” And I went back to the callback and it was the test and I didn’t know it was the test. So, I’m sitting in the hall and I’m waiting for them to just come and bring me in, and I see Sharon again and all these suits start showing up, Scott’s showing up, people are like, “Thank you so much for coming.” And I’m like, “This is not just the callback. This is THE callback.” I’m like, “Holy crap.” So I start running everything in my head, I’m really getting in the moment. And I’m like, “Alright, I’ve got to pull it back,” because I don’t want to do my best audition in the hallway.

So I pulled it back and I went into the room, and it’s a table full of people. [After the audition was over] it was just silent. Sharon goes, “Well, Lawrence, do you have any questions, like, how hot it gets in the summertime in Atlanta?” I think Scott said something like, “You know there’s a physical element. It’s a lot of running and jumping.” And I’m like, “Well, I’m pretty fit, so that’s fine.” They’re like, “You sure you have no questions?” I’m like, “No,” and I’m just thinking to myself, “Don’t say anything that’s going to mess this up.” I’m like, “Nope! I’m all good.” And by the time I got home, my managers were calling. They were like, “You got it!” It was a great audition experience and it was a character that when I first read it — when it was even made up — I connected with him. I feel fortunate, and blessed, and happy that I got the part.”

You can see Gilliard as Bob Stookey when AMC’s ‘The Walking Dead’ returns for season 4 on Oct. 13.

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AMC's zombie thriller, based on the classic comic book serial created by Robert Kirkman.

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