Bethenny Frankel might have been appearing on Today to promote season 3 of Bethenny Ever After…, but the conversation took a somber turn when Savannah Guthrie asked the reality TV star-slash-businesswoman whether she’s considered having another child to join her 21-month-old daughter Bryn. “It’s a very personal question,” Frankel told Guthrie. “We were pregnant with a second baby, and at eight weeks, I miscarried.”

An emotional Frankel went on to tell Guthrie that the experience — which, Frankel said, did not happen during the taping of the show — made her feel extreme sympathy for women who suffer from infertility. So much sympathy, that she hasn’t even had the chance to turn her thoughts back to whether or not she and husband Jason Hoppy will try for another child again. “I’m not really thinking about it,” she said. “Until you become a woman you don’t know the things that come with being a woman. And I’m 41, and I don’t know. It’s not really my choice. It’s not really my option. The window’s closing.”

Watch the video of the interview — during which Frankel also talks about a burning a hole in her esophagus from taking an antibiotic — embedded the jump.

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