''Big Brother'' evictee Joe: ''No regrets''
The latest ''Big Brother'' evictee talks about that shocking gonorrhea accusation, and sizes up the remaining players
He’s manipulative, he’s catty, and when he searches his name on YouTube (which you know he’ll do), he’ll find over a thousand clips with titles like ”Joe’s Gonorrhea Monologue” and ”Joe has low penis standards.” In other words, we knew the 23-year-old receptionist from Chicago, who was evicted from the Big Brother house Thursday night by a vote of 9 to 1, would be a great interview. He did not disappoint. Especially when we asked him for his parting thoughts on each of the remaining houseguests.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: You knew immediately that your ex-boyfriend Dustin would be one of the ”enemies” coming into the house. How?
JOE BARBER II: I pretty much knew it in my gut. [Producers] had a good idea that he was in my life through the [audition] process.
Did he ever want to be on the show?
No, he absolutely hated the show. He had no interest in the show whatsoever. It was actually something, from time to time, that we would actually bicker strongly about. So him being on the show was one of those really frustrating things because here I am so passionate about it and here he is being somebody who hates it. He’s still there playing the game and I’m not, so it’s extremely frustrating in that regard.
Do you think your arguments about the show will actually help him now? Like he could’ve picked up some strategy tips from you through those conversations?
If he was actually listening when we would talk about the show, then he most definitely would have picked something up to help him along the way. The biggest Big Brother fight we ever had was that we had to rush home from something that we were doing in order to catch the show and he didn’t want to leave yet, but I was his ride. And I said, ”Get a ride with someone else,” and he’s like, ”No, I want to go with you, but you want to go see that stupid show. And blah-blah-blah-blah-blah.” Nothing extremely detrimental to our relationship, but it was something that always cropped up.
Did you ever think that telling your new housemates, ”I destroyed his entire life. I went through and annihilated all of his friendships. I’ve done f—ing horrible things to this guy” could be a bad idea?
I was just so enraged and so much emotion was flowing through me that I didn’t have time to think whether or not what I was gonna say was eventually gonna be used against me. In retrospect, as I look at it, I probably shouldn’t have torn him apart so much due to the fact that people realized that I was very strategic, that I had a way with people as well. I was able to turn all of [Dustin’s] friends and even his best friend against him. Well, that means I’ve got a pretty strong sway on people’s opinions, and that was something that people could use against me later in the game.
Any regrets about bringing up gonorrhea on national television?
I have no regrets whatsoever. The intention of doing so is to make open discussions. One in four people have an STI, and the fact of the matter is, it’s one of those things that people don’t really discuss openly. And if people move forward and realize that you can be a great, confident, outgoing, smart, intelligent, beautiful person such as myself — ha ha, just kidding — hopefully more people will be open about it and discuss it and instead of STIs running rampant throughout our society.
Do you fully believe that Dustin was the one who gave it to you?
I know for a fact, 100 percent. Other than an immaculate conception from Jesus himself, I got gonorrhea from Dustin. End of story. Period. [Dustin, who is still in competition and thus not available to EW.com for comment, has vehemently denied this allegation on the show.]
Do you know that when you told the house that, Dustin screamed his test was negative?
He was. But that was three weeks later. Dustin is very smart at timing things and whatnot. The thing about that whole situation is, if someone that you’re sleeping with and been with a long time tells you that they’ve contracted something, you don’t wait three weeks to go get tested. You kinda run out and do it. Even his close friends were like, ”Yeah, that is really random that he had waited so long to do so.”
Do you know that CBS had a taped interview with Nate [Dustin’s best friend, whom Joe slept with] last night?
No, I did not know.
He said that you could have gotten it from ”anyone.” How do you respond to that?
Nate and mine’s relationship is strained as is…. If each person wants to get in on this, by all means, enjoy the ride.
NEXT PAGE: ”I still feel strongly that Nick’s a good person. He’s playing the game, and I wouldn’t hold anything that he’s done in the game personally against him.”
Let’s move off that topic. Before the vote, you had said that everyone would do what they said they’d do. What promises had you been made?
Before the vote last night, I [supposedly] had the votes of Nick, hopefully Zach ’cause he would do whatever Nick wants him to do. I was supposed to have Daniele’s ’cause she was in an alliance with me, though she never verified that she would. I was gonna have Jameka’s, Jessica’s, Kail’s, and Mike’s, which was enough to make it a tie. And then Jen was gonna keep me in the house. But at the last moment, Nick concocted some fabricated story about how I told Jen he was supposed to be on the block and basically backed down from it. If he had been open and honest the whole time, it wouldn’t have been such a shock, but the fact that he had been lying to my face for the last couple of days really irked me.
You had a crush on Nick. How do you feel about him now?
I wouldn’t necessarily say it was a crush, so much as an infatuation. He’s just somebody who’s extremely personable and that comes across very strongly with both males and females. I think he sets a great example of how all people should be. You shouldn’t really regard people as sexual objects. You shouldn’t sit there and hold [their sexuality] against them. You should be open to anybody. Nick knows what he’s gonna do at the end of the day, and to give me a wink or a smile is nothing wrong. More people should be like that as opposed to the people who sit there and talk negatively about homosexuals or flirts. How do I feel about him now? I still feel strongly that Nick’s a good person. He’s playing the game, and I wouldn’t hold anything that he’s done in the game personally against him.
So the 9-to-1 vote was a shock to you?
No, it was not. Because I had also told the people who were close to me, such as Jameka and Jessica, that if I wasn’t gonna get the votes, don’t vote for me so that you don’t stick out like a sore thumb. Nick really shot himself in the foot here by everybody knowing that I had his vote till the last second — people all in the house now clearly see that is an untrustworthy person.
Being the master of manipulation, is there any way Kail, who was the one person who did vote for Dick, can save herself now that Evil Dick is the House of Household?
Kail was damned if she did, damned if she didn’t. Because even a vote for Evil wouldn’t have saved her butt, so she went with what was in her heart and ended up voting for me. She did what she wanted to do, and I’m proud that she did so. I don’t think that’s gonna negatively or positively affect her really, because she’s already in Evil Dick’s sights, so there’s really nothing she can do.
When Carol, the first evictee, did her exit interview with EW.com a week ago, she said you and Dustin looked liked you were enjoying each other’s company sometimes and therefore questioned how serious your falling out actually was.
The situation between me and Dustin was extremely stressful. The only way to handle that is by sometimes ignoring it and trying to do your best. Dustin is an extremely charismatic person, and everybody loves him when they first meet him, but the second you get to know him, pretty much everybody hates him. So I’m looking forward to seeing his demise on the show and having America realize what a jerk he can be. I figure that as the stress mounts in upcoming weeks, the cracks will begin to most definitely sever him apart.
Did you really think that your hammock conversation would convince him to vote to keep you in the house?
I had no expectations at that point. Really, all I was trying to do was get closure for myself because I knew that could possibly be the last time I would ever talk to Dustin. Moving forward, I plan on having no sort of relationship with him whatsoever. All I wanted was to apologize for all the things that I had done to him and that’s all I had wanted to do in that entire year that he didn’t speak with me. Getting off that hammock, I realized that I had done something positive in apologizing to him, and if he sat there still trying to rag on me, he had now become myself a year ago. He was the bitter person. He was the one trying to bring me down.
Let’s wrap up with your final thoughts on each of the remaining houseguests, so we get some parting quips to remember you by.
Jen: Super self-absorbed, and she’s got nothin’ going on upstairs except a little bit of strategy.
Dustin: Douche-y. Douche-y. Douche-y.
Daniele: Beautiful, smart, and she’s gonna go far in this game. People better watch out for her because she’s a force to be reckoned with.
Eric: Genius. He’s so smart. He’s one of the few people in this world who genuinely makes me laugh. He’s extremely entertaining, and he shoots everything from his hip and from his heart.
Amber: Waaaaah. Cry. Cry. Cry. Cry me a river. I’m gonna buy a boat so that I can just sail on her tears after this whole experience.
Kail: A very kind person, and I think she’s playing this game with honesty and integrity, but at the same time, due to Evil’s whirlwind of terror that he’s created about her, she’s probably not gonna last much longer.
Jameka: Very sweet. She’s a very kindhearted person. She’s spiritual. She makes her best decision, and she’s open and honest when she makes them.
Mike: Pretty to look at. Pretty to touch. But geez, Louise, I don’t think there’s much going on there. Very simple guy, but not in a bad way. I just think he’s a farm-bred boy from Wisconsin who likes to paint. End of story.
Nick: A flirt. He’s a genuine guy playing a game, and it sucks.
Jessica: Our first female president if Hilary Clinton doesn’t make it because she’s a very smart person. She’s outgoing, she’s completely hilarious, funny, and off the wall. Her free spirit will carry her far in life. I’m rooting for Jessica.
Zach: [sing-songy] Creep-o. Zach is just odd. Seriously, I can’t wait till they do the live action movie of Shrek, because he’s a shoo-in for the role.
Dick: Dick’s a dick. And he’s an a–hole through and through. But he’s someone who’s true to himself and true to his heart, and I’ve got a great respect for the man. It takes a lot to live your life with no apologies, and he’s certainly done so.