James Hibberd
December 11, 2017 AT 09:26 AM EST

— Milo Ventimiglia is a beloved favorite among This Is Us fans, but he was left without a Golden Globes nomination Monday morning. Same for his costars Mandy Moore and Ron Cephas Jones.

— Julia Louis-Dreyfus is awards season royalty yet she wasn’t nominated for Veep like everybody expected. Moreover, the show wasn’t even nominated for best comedy either — it’s total Veep shut-out!

— David Fincher found a way to reinvent the crime procedural, yet his Netflix drama Mindhunter and its cast were completely locked out.

Those were just a few of the big Golden Globes snubs in the TV categories Monday morning as the 75th annual Hollywood Foreign Press Association event announced its honors for next month’s ceremony (read the full list here).

Here are our choices for the biggest snubs and surprises:

SNUB: The entire cast of Game of Thrones, which apparently is good enough to be a best drama contender but not one performer from its sprawling cast was nominated.

SNUBThe Leftovers left out! The acclaimed final season of the HBO drama, including Carrie Coon’s terrific performance, was ignored.

SNUBS: Also denied entry into the top drama category: HBO’s freshman period drama The Deuce (though Maggie Gyllenhaal was nominated) and ABC’s feel-good medical drama breakout The Good Doctor (though star Freddie Highmore was nominated).

SNUB: Showtime’s revival of Twin Peaks may have been hailed by the critics yet it was shot down for an outstanding limited series slot (Kyle MacLachlan received a nod for his performance, however).

SNUB: Despite the presence of Star Kristen Bell, who helped announce Monday’s nominees, NBC’s comedy The Good Place was left in the Bad Place by the Hollywood Foreign Press. The show’s Twitter feed live-tweeted during the nominations … and things got a little dark:

SURPRISES: Some insiders favored Frankie Shaw’s auteur Showtime series SMILF and Amy Sherman-Palladino’s new period piece for Amazon, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, as contenders for top comedy — so their nominations are perhaps not so shocking — but still, most readers haven’t heard of them yet.

SNUB: Fargo received plenty of Globes love (outstanding limited series, star Ewan McGregor and supporting actor David Thewlis were nominated), but not Mary Elizabeth Winstead for her scene-stealing role.

SURPRISEStranger Things getting into the top drama category for season 2 felt like a bit of a stretch (clearly Netflix didn’t submit episode seven). Netflix’s moody freshman drama Ozark might have made a better choice. Also: David Harbour received a performance nom.

SNUB: The upcoming season of Netflix’s Black Mirror — you haven’t seen it yet, but Globes voters have (and so have we; it’s great) — was shut out despite last year’s win.

SURPRISE: A pleasant one! Few thought Katherine Langford would be honored for 13 Reasons Why, but she was.

Here are all the nominations for film and TV.

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