After John Oliver confronted Dustin Hoffman about the sexual harassment allegations against Hoffman at an event earlier this week, Alec Baldwin tweeted that interviews by late-night hosts like Oliver and Stephen Colbert “are beginning to resemble grand juries.” Thursday morning, he expanded on that comment in an interview with Megyn Kelly on Megyn Kelly Today.
“You certainly want to see everybody who’s guilty of something, who’s done bad things, wrong things, and hurt people, you want to see those people get punished,” Baldwin said. “But I don’t want to see other people get, like, pulled into that who… there’s a lot of accusations and no proof yet. I don’t want to see people get hurt.”
He echoed that sentiment throughout this portion of the interview and also acknowledged that many people “endorse” the type of interview Oliver conducted with Hoffman earlier in the week. “They think the hosts of those shows are perfectly not only within their rights, but it’s very attractive or very necessary for them to be pressing this cause,” he said. “I just don’t want to see people who are innocent get into trouble.”
Later, Kelly asked Baldwin about his relationship with James Toback, who has been accused of sexual misconduct by more than 30 women. “He is not a good guy,” Kelly said. “In terms of anybody who’s guilty,” Baldwin responded, “whether it’s Jimmy Toback, who was, who is, my friend — I haven’t seen much of him lately after this happened — but anybody who’s guilty of this predatory behavior, men that I know, and I think most women would agree with this, we don’t understand men who want a woman, her tears streaming down her face and she’s begging you not to do the thing you’re going to do, and most men that I know say, ‘What’s with that?'”
Last month, Baldwin addressed the topic of sexual assault at a Paley Center for Media luncheon where he was being honored. “I certainly have treated women in a very sexist way,” he said at the time. “I’ve bullied women. I’ve overlooked women. I’ve underestimated women. Not as a rule. From time to time I’ve done what a lot of men do, which is… when you don’t treat women the same way you treat men. You don’t. I’m from a generation where you really don’t and I’d like that to change. I really would like that to change.”
“I think it’s important for us to try to make the workplace and beyond not only comfortable and right and fair and appropriate but as productive, as well,” he went on. “I think a lot of what we’re dealing with within this issue is hurting our business. It’s making it less productive.”
In his interview with Kelly, he also noted that he’s beginning to learn things like how speaking over a woman can be “a mild form of bullying.” “We need to have more understanding of how we treat people,” he said.
Watch the full interview above.