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Who'd win an election between Frank Underwood & Selina Meyer?

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Kevin Spacey Julia Louis Dreyfus

They’re both the leads on political series. They both crave power. They’re both the focus of this week’s EW cover story on The 25 Best Characters on TV. But what would happen if House of Cards‘ Frank Underwood (Kevin Spacey) ever met Veep‘s Selina Meyer (Julia Louis-Dreyfus)?

“I’m not even sure she’d be alive,” laughs Spacey. “First of all, Frank would probably find a way to manipulate the little guy that carries her purse around. So I’d have a mole in her office. I do have this hilarious notion that at some point on either of our shows we should be walking down a hallway and having a discussion and pass each other, and just stop, and then keep going.”

EW sat down with Spacey and Louis-Dreyfus at their EW photo shoots to discuss a possible meeting—and who would win if they ran against each other for President.